An exchange between Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet (Thea), President of Aeon Trust and Director of Aeon Centre of Cosmology in southern India, and SaiSrinivasan, Executive Officer, Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments Administration Department of Government of Tamil Nadu [1] and Trustee of Aeon Trust.
SaiSrinivasan: I have reproduced here the horoscope of Sri Ram from a book which I have with me. In fact my father was worshiping Sri Ram’s horoscope in his pooja room.
First house – Sun, Mercury.
Second –
Third – Kethu.
Fourth – Lagnam, Jupiter, Moon.
Fifth –
Sixth –
Seventh – Saturn
Eighth –
Nineth – Rahu
Tenth – Mars
Eleventh –
Twelveth – Venus.
The month is Chitra, Nakshatra is Punarvasu and Zodiacal sign Cancer according to Valmiki Ramayana. But the dates differ now because of Nirayana. . . .
Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet: Yes, Sai, this is correct, this is the horoscope that is given out as Sri Ram’s, but of course it is not his actual horoscope. Nonetheless, it is interesting because daily your father was worshiping the sacred art of astrology through this horoscope, though it was not Ram’s, and doing his part to preserve the ancient Knowledge even without realising it. It was the chart as of the IDEAL MAN that the 7th Avatar incarnated, hence Ram was the best channel for this ‘ideal’ preservation. To illustrate: the Sun is in Aries (Chitra) which is its EXALTATION . . . . Thus, they are in the 3rd and 9th in Ram’s chart as well. The important sign/house is the fourth, Cancer, and this would be interesting for those Dakshinamurthy temples, giving the proof of the EXALTATION OF JUPITER IN CANCER, the fourth sign of the tropical zodiac, the ‘south’ Cardinal Point. It is ruled by the Moon, and so they locate the Moon in that sign/house also. Since it is considered his ‘lagna’ or ascendant, they read it as being his birth sign, and not where the Sun is found (Aries), as we do today, but rather Cancer. It is of course interesting that Cancer is the last sign of his descent as the 7th Avatar. The 7th Manifestation of Ram, according to my Map of the 12 Manifestations [2], would consist of the signs Virgo, Leo and Cancer. Then the hand of the Time-Spirit moves on to start the 8th Manifestation of Krishna and the first sign met is Gemini. (This is all according to the Precession of the Equinoxes which moves BACKWARD through the zodiac. See The Gnostic Circle for all details. [3]) For me this sign of the twins, Gemini, is really Luv and Kush, Ram and Sita’s twin sons. They carried the legend of Ram throughout the land it is said. You could say they prepared the way for Krishna’s appearance 6000 years after Ram in the 8th Manifestation. The Twins opened the way and Gemini, the sign of the Twins, indicates their part in the Descent. They appear in this way as the carry-over from Ram’s appearance to Krishna’s, 7th to 8th, with Gemini, the Twins as the bridge. How beautiful. How coherent. . . . To continue:
– Saturn is located in Libra, the 7th sign/house, and that is Saturn’s EXALTATION
– Mars is located in the tenth sign/house which is Capricorn its EXALTATION
– Venus is located in the twelfth sign/house, Pisces, where it is in EXALTATION.
So, you see, this is clear proof that Ram’s horoscope was only to preserve the knowledge of the signs, rulership and exaltations, which is the basic structure of astrology and what needs to be preserved in times of darkness and attacks. Every planet is in EXALTATION or RULERSHIP. By making it Ram’s ‘horoscope’, it was assured that his devotees, such as your father, would help to preserve the Knowledge down the ages by means of his daily worship. Obviously to actually believe that this was the configuration of the heavens at the time of his birth is to miss the point entirely. But this is an example of just how completely the Knowledge had been lost. No one realised the truth! Researchers continue today to try and ferret out when in aeons gone by the heavens reflected this arrangement so as to know the date of Ram’s birth! Of course that never happened. They have missed such an obvious point! What a beautiful example this has been . . .
By the way . . . this is conclusive proof that the Tropical Zodiac and NOT the Nakshatras has been the system all along. For as long as this ‘horoscope’ of Ram’s has been circulating, it has been the Sayana system. Everything I have indicated in my analysis of the chart was entirely with the Tropical Zodiac. There is no Nakshatra business at all involved. In fact, with the Nirayana system you would not be able to understand what Ram’s horoscope really means. All the rulerships, exaltations, and so forth, are properties of the Tropical Zodiac. My Lord, what a mess India is in. This Niryana deviation has brought a terrible darkness to prevail . . . Thea
1-2 September 2007
[1] SaiSrinivasan is the Executive Officer for the following temples in Tamil Nadu:
1. Sri MahaMariamman temple, Valangaiman, Thiruvarur District.
2. Sri Kailasanathar temple, Valangaiman, Thiruvarur District.
3. Sri Kothandaramar temple, Valangaiman, Thiruvarur District.
4. Sri Arunachaleswarar temple, Valangaiman, Thiruvarur District.
5. Sri Swarnapureeswarar temple, Andankoil, Thiruvarur District.
6. Sri Pasupatheeswarar temple, Avoor, Thiruvarur District.
7. Sri Anatheeswarar temple, Saluvanpettai,Thiruvarur District.
8. Sri Lakshminarayana Perumal temple, Saluvanpettai.
9. Sri Kalinganarthana Perumal temple, Uthukadu, Thiruvarur.10. Sri Ayyanar temple, Kiliyur, Thiruvarur District.
11. Sri Lakshminarayana Perumal temple, Udayalur, Thanjavur.
12. Sri Kailasanathar temple, Udayalur, Thanjavur District.
13. Sri Selvamakaliamman temple, Udayalur, Thanjavur District.
14. Sri Lakshminarayan Perumal temple, Mathur, Thiruvarur District.
15. Sri Kamakshi temple, Sithavalur, Thiruvarur District.
[2] Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet, ‘Map of the 12 Manifestations’, http://www.aeongroup.com/mani.htm
[3] Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet, The Gnostic Circle, http://patrizianorellibachelet.com/TGC.html